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Trump on drugs?

Such a Bad Deal: Trump and Jerusalem (prospect.org)

Trump’s strange slurry speech

During his announcement today he was talking through his teeth often, even slurring the words “United States of America.”

Trump slurring his speech more than usual? Something strange going on with Trump at the end of this speech dedicating even more U.S. tax money to build new buildings in Israel while America’s infrastructure and programs suffer from underfunding. [1 min]

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[Trump is the] Same as Hitler. Replace Jews with Mexicans and Muslims as the scapegoats for the problems in society.

Watching it live it looked like he had something loose on both sides of his mouth, and afterwards when he sat down to sign he was moving something around in his mouth. Is that indicative of dentures?

I am beginning to believe the Mossad have something on him from Epstein’s Island (I hate to say.)

God bless the United Shtytsh.

FULL SPEECH: President Trump declares Jerusalem as capital of Israel (11 minutes)

It’s coke. He sniffs a lot, has a dry mouth, slurs and babbles. Plus he is a rich white businessman who doesn’t drink alcohol but stays up late, doesn’t sleep much etc.

Arabs, Europe, U.N. reject Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as Israeli capital (yahoo.com)

“Trump moving the US embassy to Jerusalem could lead to war and him suspending elections, amount other conspiracy theories.”

In article on Jerusalem, New York Times falsifies history of 1948, 1967 (electronicintifada.net)

What are possible, probable, and improbable results of the United states recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and moving the embassy there?

What WILL happen?

A lot of Muslims are going to be pissed. There will be much hand wringing and flag burning. World leaders will condemn this move.

What is likely to happen?

Protests, possible terrorism aimed at Jews, Israel, and Americans.

The embassy will never actually move- it will get bogged down by Congress. It’s really expensive to build an embassy, especially in Jerusalem.

What COULD happen?

WW3 but it is doubtful.

Major attack on Israel by Hamas, Fatah, and even some sympathetic other groups.

It is also possible nothing major will happen. There will be a few days of unrest and then life goes on.

Potential US/Trump Gains:

  • If this sparks a war, Trump won’t be seen as the aggressor. It won’t be hard for the media to further vilify Iran to set the stage to “defend” Israel.
  • Violence/aggression from other states (Turkey/Iran/Jordan/Palestine) would distract media from Russian collusion.
  • A war strengthens Trump’s Presidential authority, and could exercise emergency wartime powers. Excuse to “postpone” further elections. Excuse to expand war to other states in the region, like against Iran which the White House has been planning for since Bush.
  • Popular with Christians in US. Cements Trump control over GOP. A war would boost popularity for Trump’s 2020 Presidential campaign, similar to Bush’s 2004 campaign where he was elected on a platform to “finish the war”. Also, no GOP official in Congress/Senate would be able to oppose a Trump wartime Presidency. Anti-war people would be labelled as Anti-American.

On “There won’t be a war”

Everyone told me that he wouldn’t win the Presidency, and yet here we are. I wouldn’t discount anything, all actions are on the table.

Everyone can see this culminating to what Neo-Conservatives have been working toward since Bush, the final war with Iran. They now control Congress, the Senate, the Supreme Court and the Presidency. Let’s be real here, a war with Iran isn’t unthinkable, nor is it “world ending nuclear war catastrophic”, like a war with Russia or China would be.

Russia and Israel

It seems Russia and Israel have similar “rogue” status according to international law. Israel didn’t get penalized to the extent Russia has in retaking Crimea (which was a part of Russia and is populated by Russians for over a hundred years). Jerusalem proper has been majority Jewish over a hundred years too according to Wikipedia. Both were retaken by force. But Israel at least did it after aggression against it, while Russia was the aggressor in retaking Crimea.

What are the pluses and minuses politically for this change?

What good is for the US to spend so much on a new Embassy with little positivity to come from it? It’s as wasteful as Trump’s Mexican Wall.

BTW, when will the wall be erected?

And for a lot of that base this is all part of the plan to bring on the Armageddon war and the second coming.

For decades, conservative evangelicals have been longing for this recognition. They believe it is necessary in order to regain control of the Temple mount. That is important because rebuilding the Temple is the event that will spark the events of the Book of Revelation and the End Times…They’ve been waiting for this, praying for this. They want war in the Middle East. The Battle of Armageddon, at which time Jesus Christ will return to the Earth and vanquish all God’s enemies. For certain evangelicals, this is the climax of history. And Trump is taking them there. To the promised judgment, to their sure victory. The righteous will be ushered to heaven; the reprobate will be banished to hellfire.

Why does it matter that Trump recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel?

It undermines one of the most important international legal advancements in history. Prior to about 1928, all of the most powerful nations in the world accepted the idea that when a strong state took territory from a weak state by force, the strong state became the legitimate owner of that territory. This created a strong incentive to fight wars with one’s neighbors. After the Second World War, that rule flipped. If an aggressor nation took territory from a neighbor by military force, the world would not recognize the aggressor as the legitimate owner of that territory. This flip, along with a handful of other important changes, seriously reduced the incentives for countries to declare war on one another. This contributed to the significant decline in inter-state war in the second half of the 20th Century.

The Russians have never fully bought into this idea, and have resisted it since Stalin. Still, it has largely held up. Recently, with their annexation of Crimea, and their activities in Eastern Ukraine, they have been testing the international community’s commitment to this principle.

So, with all of this as background, Donald Trump makes a move that is widely seen as validating the Israelis’ territorial conquest by force. In the short term, it further weakens our position on Russia’s actions in Eastern Europe. In the long term, and more importantly, it brings is closer to the international order that prevailed before 1928, an order in

And,

Why would evangelicals enjoy Jews, who cast out Jesus, having Jerusalem?

Because Armageddon.

Or rather, they believe that once Israel is whole again, Armageddon / The Rapture (yes I know they’re not the same thing exactly) will occur. For The Rapture to occur – and all those souls to be saved – Zion / Israel needs to be whole again and something something Revelations.

Essentially “It is known.”

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-heilbroner/evangelicals-israel-and-t_b_391351.html

It’s Huff Post, so beware, but if you ignore some of the hysterics, it’s essentially it. Google “Why do Evangelicals support Israel”.

http://www.patrobertson.com/Speeches/IsraelLauder.asp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism

https://www.pri.org/stories/2016-10-24/why-american-evangelicals-are-huge-base-support-israel etc

Also, to some of these people, despite Jesus being the King of the Jews, he wasn’t actually a Jew, he was a Christian.

Trump didn’t seem to have complete understanding of Jerusalem decision: report

White House officials have already acknowledged this will likely hurt the peace process.(http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/06/politics/jerusalem-peace-process-white-house/index.html)

Of course he doesn’t understand. His narcissism dictates that he must have the best of everything around. That’s a starting point for everything. Now, if you wanted to know why recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital was a bad idea and didn’t know, a normal person would do some research. A few minutes of googling would turn up some very good reasons and Trump has access to the US Intelligence community – even better than Google.

However, for him to need to learn this from people means that they knew more than he did. That can’t be allowed so Trump goes on what he already knows about the situation. In his highly uneducated state, he can’t see any downsides and decides that, he being a genius and all, everyone else just never thought of doing this. So he blindly stumbles forward, declaring himself smart (SMRT!) while not seeing or caring about how idiotic he looks as long as his “I’m a genius” mental bubble isn’t popped.

Trumpers also tout that Senate voted on this, and there is no language in the bill that supports this.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-resolution/176?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22senate+resolution+jerusalem+50%22%5D%7D&r=2

He can’t even point to where Israel is on a map.

Over 400 Palestinian villiages destroyed by Jews to make way for the ‘great nation of Israel

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Just because the Palestinians have not been allowed to as you would describe it “form a sovereign” state does not make the map bullsh*t. It is an area of land that has been occupied by the Palestinian people for thousands of years and the map gives an indication of the shrinking land that is theirs. I guess the American Indians didn’t have and nation either because it didn’t follow as to what you believe a nation or a country to be. To be something it has to be “declared”.

Let’s mover over to Russia: The Spy Who Loves Me …

Flynn’s Secret Text Messages Show Trump Colluded With Russia, Experts Say (newsweek.com)

Flynn Said Russian Sanctions Would be ‘Ripped Up,’ Whistleblower Says (nytimes.com)

Whistleblower: Flynn told ex-partner Russia sanctions would be ripped up (nbcnews.com)

All we can say is it’s complicated,

Trying to make sense of the complicated Trump/Russia web

“This is the coffin nail for the GOP. Enough evidence to support it, but their self interests and fear killed this. While I don’t think the vote was proper at this time, it was a political statement and more powerful than assumed. Rep Green just forced a hand, and the GOP lost.”[SH]

“I think Americans are good, but America will be taken over and destroyed from the inside by the Zionist lobby. The Americans do not see this. They are getting decadent. Zionists will use this to destroy them.” – Muammar Gaddafi”

Oops.

The Conspiracy

Israel is the problem. But instead of this fabled Zionist lobby we have been taken over by seditious pro-Russians.

Why Is Trump Recognizing Jerusalem As The Capital Of Israel?

Jerusalem is the center of the conflict between Israel and Palestine. Israel has called Jerusalem its undivided capital, while Palestine claims the eastern half of the city as its capital.

In 1947, the United Nations worked to create a homeland for Jews in the Middle East with the idea that Jerusalem would be a separate “international city.” However, the war to establish an Israeli state led to the city being divided.
In 1949, the “Green Line” (a border created through negotiations at the end of the war) was established, giving Israel the western half of Jerusalem and Jordan the eastern half.

That arrangement lasted for nearly 20 years until the Six-Day War in 1967 at which time Israel occupied East Jerusalem and has kept it since then.

In 1980, Israel passed a law stating Jerusalem was the united capital of Israel.
While Israel claims Jerusalem, the rest of the world has refrained from assigning capital status to either side until and unless Israel and Palestine can come to an agreement on who owns what. Resolving that issue is perhaps the most difficult part of finding a peaceful end to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

The United States keeps its embassy in Tel Aviv, like most other countries. Also, like other countries, the U.S. has a consulate in Jerusalem.

If the United States declares Jerusalem the capital of Israel, it will be the first country to officially do so since the country’s inception in 1948. Compounding the issue is that Jerusalem is home to key sacred sites for Jews, Christians and Muslims.

President Donald Trump announced Wednesday that the United States will recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and will move the U.S. embassy to that city in the near future.

Trump’s decision is likely to incite unrest in the region where for more than 70 years most countries have stayed out of the dispute over who owns one of the most significant religious areas in the world.

Why are some saying the move will cause chaos in the region? Here’s a look at what the decision could mean.

What happened Wednesday?

The president declared Jerusalem the capital of Israel and announced plans to move the US embassy from its current location in Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
The move will not take place immediately.
In addition, Trump reasserted his commitment to supporting a two-state solution if Israel and Palestine can come to that agreement.

Why is that causing so much commotion?

Jerusalem is the center of the conflict between Israel and Palestine. Israel has called Jerusalem its undivided capital, while Palestine claims the eastern half of the city as its capital.
In 1947, the United Nations worked to create a homeland for Jews in the Middle East with the idea that Jerusalem would be a separate “international city.” However, the war to establish an Israeli state led to the city being divided.
In 1949, the “Green Line” (a border created through negotiations at the end of the war) was established, giving Israel the western half of Jerusalem and Jordan the eastern half.
That arrangement lasted for nearly 20 years until the Six-Day War in 1967 at which time Israel occupied East Jerusalem and has kept it since then.
In 1980, Israel passed a law stating Jerusalem was the united capital of Israel.
While Israel claims Jerusalem, the rest of the world has refrained from assigning capital status to either side until and unless Israel and Palestine can come to an agreement on who owns what. Resolving that issue is perhaps the most difficult part of finding a peaceful end to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.
The United States keeps its embassy in Tel Aviv, like most other countries. Also, like other countries, the U.S. has a consulate in Jerusalem.
If the United States declares Jerusalem the capital of Israel, it will be the first country to officially do so since the country’s inception in 1948. Compounding the issue is that Jerusalem is home to key sacred sites for Jews, Christians and Muslims.

Why hasn’t the embassy moved before?

The United States has not moved the embassy to Jerusalem because for 70 years countries around the world have stayed out of the conflict over who owns the city.
In 1989, however, the U.S. began leasing a plot of land in Jerusalem that was to be the spot where a new embassy was to be built. The 99-year lease costs the United States $1 a year. The land remains undeveloped. There is a U.S. consulate in Jerusalem.
In 1995, Congress passed a law that required the embassy to be moved to Jerusalem, saying if Israel claims Jerusalem as its capital, then the U.S. should respect that.
Since that law passed, every U.S. president, citing security concerns, has declined to move the embassy and has signed a presidential waiver to keep it in Tel Aviv.

Who would be in favor of the move?

Israel would welcome a declaration from the United States saying Jerusalem belongs to Israel.

Who would be against it?

Palestine would have the most to lose if Trump recognizes Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. In May 2017, the Palestinian group Hamas proposed the formation of a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital.
The announcement would anger the rest of the Arab world as well. Saudi Arabia has called the idea a “flagrant provocation to Muslims.”
A senior Palestinian official said Wednesday that the decision means “the peace process is finished” because Washington “has already pre-empted the outcome,” The Associated Press reported.
On Tuesday, US personnel and their families were ordered to avoid visiting Jerusalem’s Old City or the West Bank. Palestinian factions have called for a “day of rage” over the announcement.

 

What is the reaction from the rest of the world?

Here is the reaction from some world leaders to Trump’s expected announcement. (From the Associated Press)
  • Speaking to reporters in Moscow, President Vladimir Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that the “the situation is not easy.” He said Putin discussed the issue with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas late on Tuesday and expressed his concern about “a possible deterioration.” Peskov said, however, that the Kremlin would refrain from commenting a decision that has not been announced yet.
  • British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson is calling on the U.S. administration to present a Mideast peace plan because the decision clearly “makes it more important than ever that the long-awaited American proposals on the Middle East peace process are now brought forward.”
  • Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has condemned Trump’s imminent recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. The state TV’s website quotes Khamenei as saying that “when they (U.S.) claim that they want to declare Jerusalem as the capital of occupied Palestine, it shows their inability. ”
  • China has expressed concerns over “possible aggravation of regional tensions” in response to the expected U.S. announcement recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. Geng Shuang, a spokesman of the Chinese Foreign Ministry, said on Wednesday the China would monitor developments on the issue.
  • Syria’s Foreign Ministry says Trump’s expected announcement to recognize of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital is a “dangerous step” that will fuel global conflict. The ministry in Damascus issued a statement on Wednesday calling Trump’s imminent move the “culmination of the crime of the seizing of Palestine and the displacement of the Palestinian people.”
  • Two leading Lebanese newspapers have issued front page rebukes to Trump over his expected announcement recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. The An-Nahar compares the U.S. president to the late British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour, who a hundred years ago famously promised Palestine as a national home to the Jewish People, in what is known as the Balfour Declaration. The paper’s Wednesday headline reads: “Trump, Balfour of the century, gifts Jerusalem to Israel.”
  • Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu says the “whole world is against” Trump’s move to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and eventually move the U.S. Embassy there. He says that moving the embassy to Jerusalem would be a “grave mistake.”
  • Morocco’s King Mohammed VI, writing as head of the 57-member Organisation of Islamic Cooperation’s Al-Quds Committee, also expressed his “deep personal concern” and “the great concern felt by Arab and Muslim states and peoples” over the moves in a letter to Trump Tuesday. “The current step is likely to negatively impact the prospects of a just and comprehensive solution to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict,” the letter said.
  • Pope Francis is calling for the status quo of Jerusalem to be respected and for “wisdom and prudence” to prevail to avoid further conflict. “I pray to the Lord that its identity is preserved and strengthened for the benefit of the Holy Land, the Middle East and the whole world and that wisdom and prudence prevail to prevent new elements of tension from being added to a global context already convulsed by so many cruel conflicts.”

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