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HoundDogs: There’s a reason Kubrick took over a decade to make this film. Eyes wide shut was the most important movie he ever made. There’s so much to it both literally and metaphorically. Even the marketing for the film and the movie posters appear to have been specifically designed to promote something that was not as it seemed.
If you have never read about the complexities of this film, I encourage you to look up a guy named Rob Ager. There are many different people who analyze Kubrick’s films, but I’ve never seen anyone who does it to the depth that Ager does.
pressurecook: Wasn’t this movie rumored to be heavily edited post death?
SempreBarca: Point to be noted :
“On March 7, 1999, six days after screening a final cut of Eyes Wide Shut for his family and the stars, Kubrick died in his sleep at the age of 70, after suffering a massive heart attack”
which happens to be 666 days before the start of 2001, coincidentally Kubrick’s most famous movie.
toxic_banana: Kubrick was telling us something. Watch carefully.
SempreBarca: I found the in-depth analysis of Eyes Wide Shut by Rob Ager.
[Alice: “The Important thing is we are awake now.”](https://web.archive.org/web/20080711183836/http://collativelearning.com/EYES%20WIDE%20SHUT%20analysis.html)
monkhouse: Tom Cruise a scientologist, note. I wonder if that’s the explanation for celebrity scientology as a whole – they’re a way out, like the alternative spooky cult you can join if you don’t want to join the main one.
SempreBarca: Regarding “Mirrors” in the movie, writes Rob Ager :
“The overall experience of watching EWS is designed to act as a metaphorical mirror for audiences to sit and “reflect” upon their own reality. Consider this. Tom Cruise’s character spends much of the film seeking out sexual gratification … only to find repeated disappointment … during which he makes a terrifying discovery about the social hierarchy that he lives in. This is the exact same journey that audiences had in viewing the film. They went into cinemas expecting to feast their eyes on raunchy sex scenes … only to find repeated disappointment … during which they made a terrifying discovery about the social hierarchy they live in. So the widely believed idea that EWS was badly marketed is false. The marketing drew the attention of millions of people on the promise of sexual fantasy, but what we got was Kubrick ingeniously using the cinema screen as a symbolic mirror to show us a reflection of how perverted and decadent we have become as an entire society.
As already mentioned, the various paintings that appear throughout the movie are “reflecting” Bill and Alice’s reality. In a symbolic sense these are not paintings at all – they are painted mirrors. One of the books visible on Dominos shelf is even called Shadows On The Mirror.
Now look at the paintings on the sets of the Somerton orgy scene and in the ballroom of Zieglers party. Kubrick seems to have purposefully divided the painting props of EWS into rainbow coloured mirror metaphors on some sets and European nobility portraits in others. So what is the message here?
Well we already know that upper class European nobility types such as Sandor Szavost are in attendance at Zieglars party, but at the Somerton mansion we are presented with a crowd of anonymous masked people to puzzle over. Now considering Stanley Kubrick’s career-long distrust of wealthy and political establishments, which he took painstaking efforts to encrypt in his films, the artwork doubling up as mirrors concept could provide a direct answer as to the identities of the orgy participants. Notice how there are very few actual mirror props at Somerton. The mirrors are there, but their content is presented in painting form. The portraits are symbolic mirror images of those in attendance, unmasked and undisguised. Even as Victor Ziegler circles his pool table refusing to reveal the names of his orgy associates, we can see their portraits up on his walls. Talk about spelling it out. Ever the controversial risk taker, Kubrick was having a direct stab at nobility and right or wrong, he viewed them as decadent.
Many interpretations of EWS have taken the orgy scene as literal, as if Kubrick was announcing that these kinds of orgies actually happen in the very way that we see them at Somerton. This is possible and if that is your area of interest then you will find plenty of other reviews exploring those ideas. But my interpretation is that this ritualized orgy is a metaphor for moral decadence in high society.”
kweshtun1: I think all of Kubricks movies since 2001 are linked together to form a massive message. One that you can just keep digging deeper and always come out with something different. I wish there was some kind of book or maybe a series on how everything is laid out. Each movie has something that was used in another movie in some way. The movies are ultimately about us, and if we take a closer look, we can find something special.
k0bimus: Didnt he die not long after presenting gis final cut?? If I remember correctly brass at Warner Bros wanted a lot of stuff edited but Stanley refused
pacitman: Aggggreeeeed
Fuzzyfuzz09: Sure is.
Braje_Piche: Is it neo-paganism or satanism?
robowriter: Hollywood’s a cesspool that pretends it’s not. Then imposes and virtue signals its value system onto us like some holy message. This movie applies to the Weinstein and other whipping boys. Sacrificial goats conjured up to disguise Hollywood’s aforementioned nature, which fully revealed would result in its complete demise.
Kubrick points these power/women relationships that make some uncomfortable.
SempreBarca: Most significant thing is :
Kubrick played [this song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoZJdil0_HI) during the orgy scene.
This song was actually played backwards. Kubrick took a Romanian Liturgy and reversed it to make this. It’s literally a piece of Orthadox Church music played backwards.
Significance is : Luciferians often playback holy worship songs of God to mock Jesus Christ. Just like turning the cross upside down etc. Since the orgy song was resembling Satanic rituals, he played it reversely.
MIND BLOWN.
beleroy: the tv show ‘Mr Robot’ is in certain way like Eyes Wide Shut: it shows us that the powers that be have always the control, are aware of everything and can disrupt and manipulate any groupe trying to start somehow a revolution.
or not.
brandnewaltyay: [This](https://youtu.be/8D3uG0u2__o?t=198) may seem wholly unrelated…but its a vid from the halfway decent H3 channel. H3 is pretty good for poking fun at some various pop culture. This clip is from a KTLA news segment about fuckboi youtubers being dumb. What I couldnt help notice is how really stupid and ignorant parents are wasting their time, life, dignity and that of their CHILDREN, to deliver their virginal progeny directly to the doorstep of pharmaceutical dependent Disney celebrities. Why are these adult mothers mindlessly spoiling the very fruits of their own willfully traumatized loins???????
victalac: Despite the nudity and you get to see Kidman’s tits, this was the most pretentious and idiotic movie that I’ve ever seen. But this was a few years ago and people have told me that Stanley Kubrick’s films get better the more you watch them. So this one is due for a re-view, I guess.
Whaddaya Say?